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Shinkansen High Speed train might not be coming to India
FUC49M
No.876
Not making this up, i was just trying to get new details about HSR and ended up watching Siddharth's interview with Shubhranshu, ex-CAO of VB Project, topic is on HSRs.
Holy shit this interview if the things being told are correct then HSR would be in some serious issues, tldr;
A HSR or any train infra needs three major things
>Civil infra (viaducts, track, etc.)
>Signaling
>Trainsets.
We have made great progress in 1. Civil Infra.
But issue is now with signaling and trainsets. So according to the clause of the loan we needed to import the Shinkansen trainsets for our HSR which also means the signaling system.
Issue is that japanese qouted the price of almost 1000 crores rupees for a single trainset compared to say like vande bharat which took around 120crores per trainset. Agree that speed difference is there, VB is SHSR and capable upto 200kmph and Shinkansen are 350km but the sheer difference in cost forced GOI to reconsider the indigenous solution -> hence the order for BEML 250kmph trainsets.
Railway has also given order to siemens for 350kmph capable ETCS Level 2 signaling system. Which is cause of a big confusion now.
Remember those recent news of 'free trainsets' by japan? it was because they wanted to vendor lock-in India. So even if the trainset was free, the signaling system needed to be DS-ETC used by Shinkansen which means no other trainset for our HSR only japanese import (Even if we have our own hsr trainset we would need japanese consultancy).
But we didn't get anything worthwhile from that news.
Which means as things stand today,
>BEML HSR trainset, capable of 250kmph average and 280kmph top speed, will arrive atleast 2 years after the beginning of the process (september 2025) which is most likely in 2027.
>India is going with ETCS Level 2 signaling system, which means no matter what we say, shinkansen trainsets are not coming to MAHSR atleast till 2030.
This means till 2030 we will have just BEML trainsets running. So entire infra which is capable of 350kmph will have two trainsets (maybe more later) doing 250kmph journey.
This coincides with the rumors of E10 which is not coming anytime soon, timeline is 2030s for that trainset.
This is brutal but this seems to the most accurate description of future. Damn. Someone post it on r/indianrailways and r/transitindia with the title "Shinkansen trainsets might not be coming to Mumbai-Ahmedabad HSR"
xlXDy/
No.877
/QElUN
No.878
>>877
kekda prasad
FUC49M
No.879
>>877
At first maybe it seem plausible but when you realize that they just need buffer for few years likely that they will just run BEML HSR trainsets and hype it under atmanirbharata, i mean it's a big deal but the issue that we are running under the peak capacity is also true.
So what i am saying is that politics and cacophony and it will give ammo to retards who want to derail entire hsr prospects.
FUC49M
No.894
>>876(OP)
okay Siddhartha ji has asked the GM at siemens about it.
Based on the implied info by mr. rastogi, it's clear that
>Government expects delays in the rollout of the shinkansen - most likely it will be pushed to 2031 or so
>Until then, we will run the BEML trainsets utilizing the siemens signaling.
What a mess, GM clearly said that it would be a challenge to run shinkansen on their signaling systems - never been tried - it would require modification to the shinkansen trainsets.
Pretty much confirmed that only BEML trainsets are gonna run for next 5 years on the MAHSR route.
Also expected 2027 for first section run and 2029 for entire section.
FUC49M
No.895
>>894
Obviously people will mock so government can make excuse that we will get the latest shinkansen in 2030 - blame will be pushed to japanese.
And ig within next 5 years after 2027 we may be able to achieve our own 320kmph+ capable hsr trainset so it will all subside.
This is the game. No shinkansen trainsets are gonna come this decade or next.
FUC49M
No.896
>>895
me watching baboons put their 2 braincells combined to create the clusterfuck of hsr.
though there's hopium that if we just sustain well enough we will have entire signaling and trainsets of our own running 300kmph+ in next decade.
this is also the copium about the fact that shinkansen not coming.
hope we start mission like we did for electrification to upgrade entire railway network with kavach system and 200kmph support.
tno9nt
No.905
My opinion of ignoring HSR to build more metro is more valid with time passing
