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It's been a long time since i posted. Today's the big day. I have been trying to put together my thoughts, about things that have been happening around us, the doom and gloom. How much of it is real how much of it is just astroturf. How do i begin, there is indeed lot of things going on - related to personal life, related to society, so intermixed that it is becoming a bit difficult to separate. In the personal life alone there's job, there's my own relationships with the people i know, the projects and so on. Today i write however, attempt to since the time and the mood permits the situation for it. The basic doom and gloom. The rising, aspirational middle class which is tired of receiving the short end of the stick. For me the triggers were judiciary, i am sure that they have their own structural issues like everything else and for someone who is not in the loop and the based on the news cycle we only get reports of the 'bad' judgements. In general i find normies to be reactionary, swinging like a tree branch based on whatever the direction algods (algorithim gods) take them. But for me trigger was judiciary, the rich and powerful keep getting away, the poor and powerless suffer. A children without parent, a rape survivor, someone who lost their closed ones in accident. The shamelessness of the powerful or i must say the boldness of getting away. As bad as events are my belief are still entact that we are moving in better direction. Past had nothing worth mourning about. Present has lots to do. But the general doom and gloom, i believe our opinions and perception of society depended back in the day a lot on what we consumed, as in media - movies, songs, newspapers. The news were filtered, we were oblivious about most so contained in our environment it felt better. Now with internet, the bad faith players, the continuous march of the propaganda machine strengthened by algorithms people are getting traumatized and addicted to those. They crave bad news at this point. The one they can rage at, raise their fist and scream and feel something they have done but without much effort of it. The contrasts have changed, another reason i believe the change in perception is that unironically the income levels. The double digit inflation in UPA era and in general that period did see increased salaries and later governments to control the inflation, they did successfully it did impact the salary growth. Goods did get expensive at slower rate but the salaries were not accelerating either. In earlier case the inflation had also the part of salary acceleration. Source of middle class discontent. Another thing, the right wing and hindus are reactionary status quoist people. Ideally they do not prefer to attack others and generally tend to their own matter until agitated upon even then they are limited. But since the changes in government the left adjacent dominated media as in let's say movies, actors, influencers etc. which normies enjoyed collectively blackpilled them or baited them on their most joyous occasions. The ever online hindu now instead of celebrating their joyous moment was busy countering or counter celebrating Ws against the ever rampant attack from left adjacent or other non-hindu groups. Diwali became about 'pollution', holi about 'molestation', ram navmi about 'hindu vs muslims', so on. It wasn't enough that the congress backed regionalists further went on divided the hindus based on regionalism or linguistic axis. It was bound to happen because that's the way you can counter BJP's collectivist hinduism approach. So it became dussera vs dushehra, diwali vs dipawali. Regional gods vs 'vedic gods', maa shakti vs shri rama. A ever dormant hindu was never ready, the people they enjoyed or looked up to loathed their identity. So it ran around like a headless chicken. The message was and is clear, if you don't vote for us we maybe out of power but we will make your lives miserable every joyful moment will be akin to mourning. Congress was and even now is really good at propaganda, very refined that times despite being worse gave illusion of good times to the normies. A sweet poison. And part of it is in the fact that their time was before internet and we are not sure how they would fare in post-digial India era. You will not even enjoy a movie without we bombarding your life with counter propaganda. Idea is to mentally pervade defeatism in the hindu society so that they themselves open the gates of the fort for the hoardes to invade. The BJP doesn't mind, there are long term goal with them and short term ones. Either way they believe to an extent that this only so far has caused counter mobilization in favour of them on ballot. But they maybe ignoring the undercurrent. This is just one part of the events which have happened, roughly linked. But there's greater event which is occurring that is the fault of Hindoo society itself. The elites, of Hindu society, the leaders of the local groups, nationalism itself. The Indian society is very tribal, archaic and successive government from congress to bjp have tried subtle reform but each with its own flavour. I obviously have tilt towards BJP because it aligns with my understand of this land that is core which is dharmic. But there's indeed is one issue. The symptom of that are the trads, the bheem groups, etc. abrahamics however are their own bracket. So what even is this symptom? The symptom of self victimization. Indian public is nice generally nice but we are resource scare country which has resulted in very nice bunch being pitted against each other which lead to a mentality where we can't view the world outside our myopic lens. Long term visions are gone. And i don't blame them, because the state machinery has been subpar. How can i ask some Indian to not leave for other better opportunity if the shameless babus in NHAI are causing deaths of thousands in year, when thousands of kids are being mauled by strays and government doesn't want to hurt, when some group of microminority forced the mighty BMC to do half ass work against the pigeon problem, when the food are adulterated, bridges are falling, pollution by farmers, cars, etc. when trains are delayed and so on. But it's also truth that it's sort of like a feedback loop, a strong archaic society resists the changes, leading to sub par work which leads to dissatisfaction which leads to further polarization of the society that nothing ever good can happen. How do you break such stronghold, such cycle? The immediate results is in what anons turn towards are - genocide xyz group, blaming each other for the fault when we are collectively responsible. Truth is in the realization that we need indeed patriotism, a bit of unwavering faith, being irrational in our belief that we can make it and keep changing things, subtly at bare minimum, ram through when the chance is there. This cycle will obviously have weeds which need to be removed, those leaders who were rapists, courts, babus there's need to screen some of them out to improve the machine. Question is it happening? Answer might be yes and maybe not. Lots of things to do, too little time. This is why we need to hype up every good thing but also understand there will be failures but do not be doom gloom about it but also try everything to weed out the problem while not jumping into the bhosadpill pit. Need to tread very carefully. At the end i feel the natural momentum will take care of it all. But i just attempted to touch upon with theory. At the end if you are uncertain, focus on yourself your family and extended community. That's it. Jai Hind Jai Bharat!

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>>3862 >I have a relatively small home, well maintained garden. I clean daily and try to keep outside my home clean. nice yara. >You cannot help those invested in the rat race though. true

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>>3863 >Contempt for normieism is a sign that your soul is still alive and not crushed. it's a struggle, but atleast the saner mind prevails for the most part. >gif beautiful sovl

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>>3864 have you read any work of naipaul gujjusaar?

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It was my college days, one of those late nights, for some reason i got hyperfixated about aircrafts, one thing lead to another and i started reading up about Tejas and then I discovered about Kaveri project, while searching through the internet i landed on some Indian defense forums from there i reached BRF - one of the early defense forums of India. There was a section on Kaveri and i remember spending entire night reading through the discussions over it. Information which was not even available on wiki was there, details which mainstream or social media will not focus untill 2024-26. BRF is now mostly deserted, old crop is gone, veterans too have mostly left few others just checkin' in once in a while. This is a story which can be found for many other forums - the present state of internet culture. Long back I read an interesting article, **"Why the Culture Wins: An Appreciation of Iain M. Banks"***1*, it begins with discussion about culture, quoting, > “What’s the Culture?” I asked. > “Well,” she said, “it’s kind of hard to explain.” She settled in for what looked to be a long conversation. > “In Thailand, they have this thing called the Dog. You see the Dog wherever you go, hanging around by the side of the road, skulking around markets. The thing is, it’s not a breed, it’s more like the universal dog. You could take any dog, of any breed, release it into the streets, and within a couple of generations it will have reverted to the Dog. That’s what the Culture is, it’s like the evolutionary winner of the contest between all cultures, the ultimate basin of attraction.” Though one can extrapolate on various accounts, I am more interested in the interpretation of it in terms of the internet as a whole. Before we begin, we should talk about the idea of higher culture, a higher culture - "is a forms of culture that are thought to cultivate depth, discipline, and long-term meaning rather than immediate pleasure", something which is more coherent with the idea of delayed gratification. We will stick with this definition for the sake of simplicity. Early internet, late web 1.0 and early web 2.0, used to have pockets of such higher culture - which would later seep into the normal discourse, affecting the larger culture as a whole. Those pockets were generally dedicated forums - usually specialized format - pixel art, tanks, weapons, generalist defense forums, space flight forums, maths, science forums so on or a set of personal blog site run by hobbyists. In parallel were systems like IRC for chat, even file sharing, etc. It was not uncommon to find actual scientists, artists, veterans there and conversations were kept on topic, detailed, slow but informative. The restrictions on forums generally would keep people on topic, result was condensed set of information and discussions. Every culture needs young blood to sustain, and usually there was enough entry to sustain those. The case was that - the cultures were segregated, developing, enriched with information at different pockets of internet in the form of forums, hobbyists blogs. Incubation hubs of ideas. Slowly the result from these would drip into the reality, but the life cycle of any of these events was longer - so what regular people got was refined late stage information and had little effect on the original development on those cultures. With eventual rise of social media and compared to effort required to have dedicated blogs, discovery of it alone, connection with wider audience it was way easier to just have an account, get easily noticed - it provided relaxation from the tyranny of the forum moderators, a win for individualist people, normal people who didn't want to deal with all those 'nerd stuff'. Bonus you could easily chat, make friends so on. Then came 'communities' on social media, or enticement of followers, like, appeal was way more compared to forums - lesser rigidity, more individualist success and rules. But it was reddit which actually killed the forums, soon anyone could create community, reddit blew up among normies and anyone could barge into any community. customization was removed, so on. At earlier period of boom those communities were well run then top down hammer of reddit came and destroyed all of those communities, bots were another reason - but damage was already done - once live cultural kitchens - forums were barren now. Dying, with mostly old users lurking around - not enough new young blood and old users leaving lead to loss in the culture making machines. Reddit failed to create another set of cultural hubs, rest of the social media also failed. Twitter even though along with other forums may have caused the decline on hobbyists blogs but thanks to the twitter simcluster it almost reached there but then elon came, destroyed the algorithm, turn it into slop machine with monetization and twitter was now just pure - slop culture at the end. artists leaving, guys who build no longer building just sucked into the ragebait engine. so on. Even though it has the resources - people - twitter is extremely bad to the point it discourages any culture of discussion or conversation. With forums gone, reddit in shambles, social media 'ai' optimizations any specific cultural hotspots are dead - decaying - withering. We are now the at 'culture' stage of the internet. Forums itself were abstractions - tbh internet - of what was happening in real life - sharing and all. Eventually digital space became move lived than the reality itself. The digital reality, the places which propped new age of such people are no longer strong enough, there's no 'higher culture' anymore it's just 'culture'. You can no longer build a culture which was possible in places like dedicated forums, nor you can find the hobbyists or connect with them using dedicated blogs - thanks to google search enshittification. The conversations moving back to places like bad is extremely bad thanks to their lack of posterity. Now regarding late gratification, the current crop of social media which thrives on instant gratification, making users addicted to clicks, optimized for seeking attention through algorithm trickery instead of content quality has made situation worse. Forums were not perfect, powertripping mods is not something uncommon to hear, ease of usage of internet was a carrot for normal people now when one thinks about it. The lack of discoverability of such places is another issue. All combined, our meta heaven is now meta hell, people who tried to escape reality to live in this are now trapped, addicted to dopamine hits. Even if they want they can't escape. We need a reset, returning to the nature is more required than anything. With advent of AI things are going to get worse. --- **References** 1. https://www.sciphijournal.org/index.php/2017/11/12/why-the-culture-wins-an-appreciation-of-iain-m-banks/

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>>4347 >>4357 Thanks sirs, i wanted to have a balance - it's from my own lived experience obviously there were more platform but this general pattern matches with the rest. Didn't want it to turn into nostalgia bait - but it's better to get it out of the system. >Please submit it for the zine. The anon who is working for? I think he has access to entire chan so he can use any of the content it's not like there's copyright here. Thank you. >>4348 kek i didn't realize. >>4346 >Eventually digital space became move lived than the reality itself. *more lived >The conversations moving back to places like bad is extremely bad thanks to their lack of posterity. The conversations moving back to the places like Discord is bad, extremely bad thanks to their lack of posterity.