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SGTOW General #35
Dj8+r0
No.388038
SGTOW
Shudras Going Their Own Way
Sorry for not making thread I was travelling to Mumbai for the Messi event
WIwMWq
No.388039
Dj8+r0
No.388076
>>388039
Self agency and away from Hinduism
WIwMWq
No.388077
>>388076
based
O+0PQy
No.388681
>>388038(OP)
Bump
SYNLD4
No.388690
>>388039
Mumbai apparently
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41+O+Y
No.388703
>>388038(OP)
What's your endgoal?
O+0PQy
No.388710
>>388703
To form a movement that provides an alternative to Shudras to hindu varnashrama, the knowledge that hinduism degrades the position of shudras, and if some shudra feels confused about his position/dejected at the scriptural injunctions against him he has options of self agency and moving away from hinduism
O+0PQy
No.388762
>>388736
If you don't like this movement ignore the thread but don't derail the general
9sF+Lb
No.388767
>>388710
Choose some different sect of hinduism
For example Patidars who were shudra in past now have completely different position, they have their own temples and priests, they worship krishna
O+0PQy
No.388785
>>388767
It is irrelevant. So long as you remain attached to hinduism you remain subservient to the scriptures and give leeway for trads to attack you generations later (rightfully) calling your sect as fake and false and against thr scriptures (rightfully)
9sF+Lb
No.388793
>>388785
Who really cares about random trad circlejerk on twitter, there only source is veda and upanishada both are irrelevant in present time
O+0PQy
No.388796
>>388793
Shankaracharya also agree with trads
9sF+Lb
No.388798
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bochasanwasi_Akshar_Purushottam_Swaminarayan_Sanstha
BAPS was started by a Patidar guru
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaminarayan_Sampradaya
Swaminarayan sampradaya was although started by a brahmin but its followers were from all (indian)s
BAPS is denomination of sampradaya
O+0PQy
No.388803
>>388798
Literally (rightfully) mocked by all trads and those learned in scriptures. So long as you remain within hinduism your position is fixed by shastras
Hence GYOW
9sF+Lb
No.388804
>>388796
Shankaracharyas themself are irrelevant outside trad circlejerks
And in present no (indian) is pure and related to vedic elites
9sF+Lb
No.388808
>>388803
You care more about others opinion on internet then you care about real life position of (jai bhim)
O+0PQy
No.388810
>>388804
Shankaracharya are final authority on Hinduism on earth
SGTOW is a pure ideologically motivated movement based on the position of shudras in scriptures. Hinduism is the shastras, and no amount of sectarian cope will change it
If some Shudra wishes to find his sect, or be a hindu I won't object
But that is not what SGTOW is about. It is motivated by having nothing to do with Hinduism , just walking away.
O+0PQy
No.388811
>>388808
Sgtow is an ideologically motivated entity
9sF+Lb
No.388812
Position of one's (indian) keeps on changing
Ahirs who were once the noblest kshatriyas are considered as shudras in present time
Rajputs who are later migrants in the subcontinent are kshatriyas who are approved even by the shankaracharyas
9sF+Lb
No.388816
>>388810
What are you getting by going away when you can adopt it
9sF+Lb
No.388820
>>388810
>Shankaracharya are final authority on Hinduism on earth
Shankaracharya are themself a later creation
9sF+Lb
No.388822
O+0PQy
No.388825
O+0PQy
No.388830
Any Shudra feeling humiliated by his position in hinduism should choose SGTOW
Just walk away.
95yJrO
No.388864
>>388076
Wahi toh kaha, pakistan.
O+0PQy
No.388868
>>388864
Achccha
95yJrO
No.388871
>>388830
I find it interesting that every single varnasankar ranks up even lower than the sudra based on the actually ranking.
95yJrO
No.388877
>>388868
Pakistan is quite a literal example of self agency of people abandoning Varna and all going away from Hinduism. Infact it is the best case end up goal for the movement. I would not be amazed if SGTOW is just pakistani calling for help form the left wing of India, in hope an anti national sect forms within the nashun.
O+0PQy
No.388886
O+0PQy
No.388890
>>388877
Apples and Oranges. So this is the new cope of Dwijas about SGTOW?
9sF+Lb
No.388894
>>388886
You can change the position of (jai bhim)
(indian) system is fluid, its about how competitive one's (indian) is
Both social and religious ranks are decided by this
O+0PQy
No.388914
>>388890
Mauritius had V4 V5 immigrants who moved away from varnashrama and faired well
It is insane just how much seethe this idea has generated. I do not hate hindus or dwijas, I simply don't wish to be associated with it and I don't condone hatred of hindus
After so many attempts at subverting/dismissing just leave this movement alone
O+0PQy
No.388915
>>388894
Not after information age.
Dj8+r0
No.389113
That's great for today. Going to sleep. Will discuss tomorrow
