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4hNwjg
No.163751
>Be a German poorfag
>BORN with high IQ, a literal genius
>people find out
>get admitted to best institutions cuz your extraordinary capabilities
>Become a legend
100s of years later 76 IQ poorfag shitskin chamars from turd world shithole use your example to prove how le "Birth" doesn't matter
Birth is all that matters chamar, you could have been born as 150IQ genius in germany too.

4hNwjg
No.163765
>didn't finish school
>never went to college
>self taught mechanics
Wright Brothers were basically American shudras, why didn't any Indian shudra invent the plane? Because of low IQ and sheer luck.
Many high IQ westerners tried to invent the plane too but they all failed, infact many of them dismissed that we such a machine could ever be built.


nDWINo
No.163773
>>163765
Lohars were respected. The vishwakarma people even though i think shudras were primary authority superseding brahmins when it comes to work or story being expressed through the temples.
One can understand the dynamic when someone understand what is concept of 'adhikara'. It's like role and responsiblity in modern sense. Each took pride in their own set of responsibilities. In resource abundant society it would work flawlessely.


nDWINo
No.163775
Lohars equivalent of southern indian were exporting certain type of swords which were used and praised by persians, used by muslims against those in crusades etc.
Wootz steel.
2V9lS9
No.163777
>>163773
Trad revisionism of history


nDWINo
No.163779
Vishwakarmas who were shudras built grand temples which we saw in aweworthy today.


nDWINo
No.163780
>>163777
I am anything trad, i am literally saying opposite i am saying that shudras were skilled people and were respected and did great thing in their skillset in the past.
Obviously maybe you hate me because i deny your gorillion year victimhood story.
QGeUkg
No.163782
2V9lS9
No.163784
>>163780
Lol they weren't.


bg6yvy
No.163785
>>163777
Which is a good thing; The context in which we interact with people is changed when history is changed. There should be even more revisionism.
QGeUkg
No.163786
>>163780
>gorillion year victimhood story.
>saar every text and historical accounts were fake saar every current socioeconomic that is indicated by historical socioeconomic is fake and gay saar you see LCs weren't discriminated in the slightest
keZvli
No.163787
>>163773
Indians were pioneers in metallurgy back then. We invented Wootz steel. Made iron pillar of delhi. So i think the cream of the crop among lohars were very intelligent.
2V9lS9
No.163789
>>163785
No. Truth stands for itself, and your lies will be crushed soon

4hNwjg
No.163791
>>163782
Not their work, it's only obvious that mechanics invented the plane and not some theologists or philosophers, physicists of the time had dismissed the idea entirely.


nDWINo
No.163793
>>163786
>saaar text which literally imposes even stricter rules for brahmins is proof of gorillion year oppression
As i said you are a retard. Wait till you see that Indian constitution, indian parliament building has direct quotes from manusmriti itself.
Your seethe against brahmins is so hard that you can't understand the value of your own ancestors. You demean your ancestors in your attempt to le 'own' brahmins or UCs.
Don't be inferiority ridden cuck.
TXuIa8
No.163794
>>163751(OP)
I used to be anti casteist and explicitly individualist but more I interact with actual chamars, more I am pushed towards caste supremacists. My god, chamars can't go one day without seething about poomins and muh privilege. No one was talking about caste in here(I didn't even know what my caste was other than knowing its vaguely forward caste) until chamars got the internet and they made it their entire identity.


bg6yvy
No.163795
>>163789
>Muh truth
moralisers are the tschandala of our times, nothing but fist shaking yet believe they are powerful. There will be more revisionism, the 'truth' you doctored will be wiped, and you are arguing on imageboards, kek. Its over for you.
TXuIa8
No.163796
>>163794
I live in South in case you are asking me how I don't know my caste because here we don't use caste surnames and use family or father's names instead.

4hNwjg
No.163797
>>163786
According to history Shudras under went social upliftment since Gupta Empire.
Bhakti movement and Sanskritisation changed their lives.
For example - Patels in Gujarat were shudras before they were introduced to religion by a UP Brahmin whom they later named sahjanand swami and declared him a God.
Today they are considered UCs due to their social and economic status.
2V9lS9
No.163798
>>163795
>truth' you doctored will be wiped,
Truth can't be doctored. Your claims of muh respected Shudras won't stand academic test. Feel free to try . Your argument is restricted to imageboard with cp spams and Twitter spaces


nDWINo
No.163799
>>163787
Yeap, only sad thing is that post resource scarcity with multiple hundred year social collapse we failed to turn those family expertise into proper enterprises.
Still in villages, vishwakarma community has expertise in those just that they failed to modernize.
In fact same goes for brahmins, most of them went into vaishya adjacent job due to money and many of the big companies today - are actually due to brahmins.

4hNwjg
No.163800
>>163799
vishwakarmas were always respected and had social status, in some places they even larp as Brahmins lmao


nDWINo
No.163802
>>163798
>Truth can't be doctored. Your claims of muh respected Shudras won't stand academic test. Feel free to try . Your argument is restricted to imageboard with cp spams and Twitter spaces
>academic test
Anyone who is true to resource will realize that there was no gorillion year oppression. The academics themselves have agenda driven and push for that narrative only reason it persists today.
Despite common knowledge that shudras were enrolled in gurukuls in southern india, most of the dominant caste in southern indian being shudras somehow brahmins were blamed.
The fundamental premise that somehow in a country with less than 500 pci UCs were gorillion time better is something academics don't touch because it shatters the narrative they want to push.
Only community i would genuinely say deserves reservation with no if or but is sc/st groups. No obc no nothing. Bring EWS for that.


bg6yvy
No.163804
>>163798
>Truth can't be doctored.
sapne suhaane chutiye ke. why am I even arguing with a midwit. There's no such thing as truth. Which is why academic spaces always have a slant toward a narrative, they're generating one in real time. We've already changed what history is being taught in schools, it won't be soon before there's an indic school of historicism. You'll do nothing but cope.
2V9lS9
No.163806
>>163802
The scriptures alone btfo you
2V9lS9
No.163807
>>163804
>We've already changed what history is being taught in schools,
Regarding islamic invasions, sure
>it won't be soon before there's an indic school of historicism.
And it will teach the story of how shudras were mistreated, by your own wj scriptures


nDWINo
No.163808
>>163806
They don't that's the point. The scriptures put harsher restrictions on brahmins.
Every community was given adhikara. Brahmins couldn't intervene at best could discuss when it comes to work of vishwakarma who would literally sculpt the murtis - they can guide on rituals etc.
2V9lS9
No.163811


nDWINo
No.163816
>>163811
>humiliation
this is complete garbage when rules were like following
>punish brahmins twice as hard as any shudras
>light punishment for dwijas would be akin to sin for kings
>brahmins shouldn't accumulate wealth
third point is the reason why many brahmins demoted to vaishya but they were autistic knowledgejeets so they exceled there too.
Most of the indians were living in worse off situation, with barely any education, worse life expectancy, so on.

e6qnfe
No.163817
>>163808
>The scriptures put harsher restrictions on brahmins.
This yaar, why do people not realise this. Imagine being called subhuman baman and losing all of your social cred, simply because you happened to leave your city without a prior notice.
2V9lS9
No.163818

e6qnfe
No.163819
>>163765
>basically American shudras, why didn't any Indian shudra invent the plane?
Unironically this, since I never understood why do we not have craftsmen who invented some thing relevant to their craft yaar? It's not like the UC were limiting LC from being good at the very roles they pushed on them in the first place.


bg6yvy
No.163820
>>163818
>saar gib me rejerbashun for gorrilion years of oppreshun saar
>the oppression: have names that show servitude

e6qnfe
No.163821
>>163773
>Lohars were respected.
As a matter of fact they still are. I do not know what form of nignogery is going on in the narth west and other regions, but as far as all central north goes, the Lohar still are respected a lot by Brahman Varna.
>The vishwakarma people even though i think shudras were primary authority superseding brahmins when it comes to work or story being expressed through the temples.
This also pertained over generations. This is also why Vishwakarma people don't harbour any form of I'll intent towards UC community. They were all simply talented people doing good job.


nDWINo
No.163823
>>163818
As i said your inferiority complex is so bad that you literally continuously put down your own ancestors, it was like
>name for brahmins should show that they are 'auspicious'
>'strength' in case of kshatriya
>'wealth' in case of vaishya
>'service' in case of shudra
it's not about humilation rather a template - like 'anon halwai', 'jaggu gyani', 'rajuironworker' so on.
Something which is common but never strictly followed.

e6qnfe
No.163824
>>163775
This is backed up by the Kheezhadi site findings where wootz steel is still seem along side some artifact that are not nessesarily home produced. It means Wootz steel like exported and were all quite popular.


nDWINo
No.163826
>>163819
>Unironically this, since I never understood why do we not have craftsmen who invented some thing relevant to their craft yaar? It's not like the UC were limiting LC from being good at the very roles they pushed on them in the first place.
I discussed this with more learned people. It was mix of social and economic limitations.

e6qnfe
No.163827
>>163777
>Someone claims LC were respected socially
>Anon claims "Brahmano ki koi hui milawat"
Yaar their HAS to be a limit to bottom of how low a human's intellect can fall.

e6qnfe
No.163828
>>163826
>I discussed this with more learned people. It was mix of social and economic limitations.
I actually agree but I feel like their must have been atleast a few findings, even if a handful, which simply have not been recorded.
2V9lS9
No.163829
>>163820
This is an example. Hindu scriptures allow anuloma but forbid pratiloma. Shudras are commanded to own less wealth per manusmriti


nDWINo
No.163830
>>163824
yeah, long back few anons and i were randomly talking about south indian history that's when we diverted to discussion about the same.
I am not aware of this recent excavation you pointing to however.
2V9lS9
No.163831
>>163823
We both know what service refers to here


nDWINo
No.163832
>>163829
>Shudras are commanded to own less wealth per manusmriti
And brahmins were literally told to not accumulate wealth at all.

e6qnfe
No.163834
>>163823
>People when they realise Will Smith is called a Smith because his ancestors were black smith, (who were also literally black) and not because it is a slur.
Yaar the fact someone needs to explain this is so fucking sad. This entire nation needs to be burned in flames and purified.

e6qnfe
No.163835
>>163832
KEK yaar, Dayush please enroll in my Varna, you will make an excellent Baman.


bg6yvy
No.163836
>>163819
invention of the plane/flying craft is an exceptional achievement that you can only appreciate in the context of the sum of people on earth, not by nation. There are people who'd been trying and some brazillian also achieved flight. Its a bit like saying 'why did the japs not do it' or 'why did the chinks not do it' its because they were simply less interested in it than westerners and scientific progress in the 1800s was a near western monopoly they were so dominant back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_the_first_airplane_flight#Controversy_after_1903


nDWINo
No.163837
>>163831
No we both disagree, i consider a lohar providing metal work as a service to the society. Lohar will have some sanskrit autistic name for that in fact for certain we can find.
In greater sense such limitation was imposed on each varna or a template was given.
Should kshatriyas chimpout that why they can't have tags like 'dhanvan' like vaishyas?etc.
You are trying hard but every example by you shows how inherently broken your reasoning is.

e6qnfe
No.163839
>>163816
>twice
I think official sanskrit sloka says it should be by merit of brahman so least is twice but it can be also as high as "eleven" times. For instance if a Saraswat Brahman makes a mistake like trying to lecher at a young princess he may be whipped 100 over 50 times. But if a Kanyakubja Brahman who comes under Kulin status does the same, then it may be 550 whips, since he knew much better than that.


bg6yvy
No.163842
>>163831
its your own bigotry to think that providing service is great disrespect upon individual.


bg6yvy
No.163843
>>163842
besides none of us do what our jati constricts us to do. We're all heretics.

e6qnfe
No.163844
>>163831
>We both know what service refers to here
Yaar why are you trying to make it sound like we all are talking about prostitutes lmfao. It's not like any family exist with titles like "randi vanshaj mahavesya" or "linga lapak lapak choosak vishal vishphotam" kek.
2V9lS9
No.163847
>>163837
Dasa is the name for shudras as per puri shankaracharya

e6qnfe
No.163848
>>163843
This, you lose your Varna when you leave the nation has well. Being an asshole is a personal choice and anyone can be an asshole in the old shield of what Varna directed at them. That does not mean your faith is inherently hateful.
The world needs someone to blame and it is a tough pill to digest that this one community or this one God doesn't hate you with passion, as it is very easy to hate this one specific entity than trying to filter out small fragment of problems.


nDWINo
No.163850
>>163821
interesting, i got into the vishwakarma lore when long back some leftist push insidious agenda over temple construction that shudras were 'slaves' for but when i read a bit they were literally the authority over temple construction.
Also vishwakarma is a broad term - murtikar, lohars, etc.etc. all sorts of craftsmen come into that category.
>>163828
I forgot to mention that, we are talking about a history which is stretching for atleast 3000 to 4000 year old - if we start from Kurus.
Probably the most ideal peak was Guptas apart from local kingdoms like Cholas, cheras, pandyas in south, or various others Vijayanagara, Chalukyas, etc.
After invasions, etc. collapse of empires, de-hurbanization post guptas etc. probably society was not that ideal at all and slowly and steadily things started getting bad and probably got destroyed post industrial age - like another thread in /b/ addresses one aspect.


bg6yvy
No.163851

e6qnfe
No.163852
>>163847
Dasa is a surname/title, same as
>Gupta is for Vaishya
>Verma is for Kshatriya
>Sharma is for Brahman
But the names themself may vary, not to mention these titles would often go alongside the family based surname. For instance someone can be
>Lohit Dasa Vishwakarma
Or
>Karman Dasa Charmahara
(I don't know what surnames Chamar families used traditionally, since they hide it like pussies unlike the based Lohars)

e6qnfe
No.163854
>>163850
Funny that nothing has changed. India would see war that affected manufacture industry back at the time and still we struggle with manufacture industry the most. Service industry on the other hand was good back then and is good right now.
>MFW literally history of this nation is written in blood and famine because Shudras had to carry the nation when Vaishyas should have


nDWINo
No.163855
>>163847
You can literally find brahmins who have the suffix dasa.

e6qnfe
No.163857
>>163851
>Its a common bengali surname
Thanks to Shudra and Brahmana being the most prominent Varnas in Bengal. It makes sense it is so prominent. I know a lot of them myself, but the law of lineage still applies.
Most Shudras I know do use Das as surname. It's nothing that is antagonistic or say dehumanising inherently, it is just a name. A lot also took the name happily since Dasa is associated as in the way "servitude to god".

e6qnfe
No.163858
>>163855
This.
TXuIa8
No.163859
>>163793
Kek, I remember some thread from reddit where chamars were seething about some punishment in the past which involved pouring hot red iron on the ears for something until someone came in and clarified that punishment was specifically for brahmins who failed to llive according to dharma.


nDWINo
No.163861
>>163848
>The world needs someone to blame and it is a tough pill to digest that this one community or this one God doesn't hate you with passion, as it is very easy to hate this one specific entity than trying to filter out small fragment of problems.
trvke, we keep finding ways to divert the blame.
I have serious issues when it comes to backward caste leader because instead of building institutions they literally waste time asking for gibs and redirecting energy towards hatred on UCs.
In larger goal i have same issues with Hindus who are more focused on being 'anti-something' rather than focusing on institution building.
That's why when it comes to India as a whole i wish we focus more on insitution building so on and improve our R&D etc. to the point when you do all of that you will automatically also create a good ability to deter effort of those who are trying to attack etc. it's not as clear cut - cuz but rough correlation - we have discussed just about nation as a whole few threads few months back...


nDWINo
No.163862
keZvli
No.163865
>>163819
Tbf even western inventors usually came from family of priests, businessowners, academics and aristocrats. Even wright brothers father was a clergyman descending from a rich family. Its just that UCs have higher percentage of high iq individuals. I am sure the cream of the crop among craftsmen like those who invented wootz steel or built ships must have been high iq as well. They must have been royal craftsmen but most craftsmen were average iq. Crafts are repetitive jobs and any midwit can be trained for it.

e6qnfe
No.163866
>>163859
>Manusmriti said we Brahmans must be punished for failing to do our duties.
>Shudras get mad
... Were Shudras the true Brahmanvadi all along lmao?
TXuIa8
No.163868
>>163836
The chinese also tried to do it but it was just some guy strapping rockets to a chair and got pulverized as a result kek.


bg6yvy
No.163870
>>163865
>Tbf even western inventors usually came from family of priests, businessowners, academics and aristocrats
I've seen this observation hold especially well in philosophy. Nietzsche was the only son of a luther pastor and was groomed from a young age to be one himself when he grew up. Schopenhauer, the son of a businessman spent a good portion of his childhood travelling to places with his father. There are exceptions such as gauss and kant whose fathers where blue-collar workers.

e6qnfe
No.163872
>>163793
>Your seethe against brahmins is so hard that you can't understand the value of your own ancestors.
It's not UC's who hate LC for being LC, it is the LC who hate themself for being LC and that is pretty much the core of problem. People have been so busy fighting Castiesm as this black and white all clear entity, they didn't bother focusing on the internalised casteism within their community.
If Marathas were as ashamed of the title of a Maratha, as the Maharastra are, they too would be pretty low in social hierarchy. Irony is that by circumstances both can be of same Varna if we go by scriptures. Go figure, someday Casteism will end but that would be when Shudras learn to love themself, rather than hate Bamans.
2V9lS9
No.163878
Hindu scriptures have institutionalised cuckoldry for lower castes, check the anuloma/pratiloma dichotomy. It is impossible defending this system. You can argue on imageboards all you want but this system was meant to collapse

e6qnfe
No.163894
>>163878
>Hindu scriptures have institutionalised cuckoldry for lower castes,
Yaar ye cuckjeets bhi na
>check the anuloma/pratiloma dichotomy.
>Literally admits to existence of marriages that goes either way
>Scripture prohibits any Varna from marrying any Varna criticising both Anuloma and Pratiloma
Yaar shudra atleast read the scriptures, tum hi sab toh kehte ho padhne nahi dete, PADHO toh thik se, wtf?
>It is impossible defending this system.
>Emgleesh
>You can argue on imageboards all you want but this system was meant to collapse
Unironically for retards that do not know. The law of Vivaha Samskaram doesn't apply on Shudras, as a result of which most of the Shudras who all follow Loç charya are free to anyone out of the three Dwija families.
This means a Shudra can marry
>Kaivarta
>Kayastha
>Mudrabhishikta
>Soota
>Magadha
>Ayodhaga
>Chandala
>Nishada
>Ambhasta
>Literally anyone who is not Hindu
>Literally anyone who is not indian
>Pretty much anyone in 95% of world
>Literally most marriage options out of four Varnas
>iNsTiTuTiOnAliSeD cUcK
Yaar retard, YOU don't get bitches but why are you dragging an entire Varna in your retardation?


bg6yvy
No.163897
>>163878
kek yaar thats just misogyny. You've such an inferiority complex, actually no self respect at all. I doubt all of this was followed stringently even. and even the wiki page says :
>However, later commentators have come to accept these marriages
Speaking of systems of disparity, romans and greeks, these virtuous westerns held in the highest of esteem(and rightfully so) practiced slavery and in all years of rome being rome there was no retard that came along and said 'slavery is wrong', you know why? disparity is necessary for civilisation to exist whether it be implicit or else. It shouldn't hit as a shock to you that rome collapsed when the christcucks took over with their 'all are equal in the eyes of God' bullshit. God was never a barometer of equality in the first place. You and I are not equal, not because of a difference in varna or caste, but because no 2 humans can be equal. Some are gifted by circumstance, some are gutted by it. Thats just how it is.
2V9lS9
No.163898
>>163894
Anuloma are permitted, pratiloma forbidden.

e6qnfe
No.163901
>>163898
Neither are forbidden, and both are looked down upon. Tolerance of Anuloma and Pratiloma will vary by scriptures and Manusmriti considers all of them inferior. Varnasankar by default will go on to rank lower than Shudra based on which time period it is.
2V9lS9
No.163903
>>163901
Anuloma is accepted and pratiloma strictly forbidden. This is scriptural mandate and even Puri shankaracharya says this

e6qnfe
No.163905
>>163897
>because no 2 humans can be equal
This yaar, I could have been a Shudra but I still would be earning 7 LPA with a job in MNC, it will not matter since it is close to impossible for two human beings to be objective equally unless they were literally clones.


bg6yvy
No.163906
>>163901
Besides whats this cope that manusmriti is the be all end all? its not the bible, its one of the earliest books on codified law. Its not like the laws didn't evolve past manusmriti. This is a very weird obsession.
2V9lS9
No.163907
>>163906
Puri shankaracharya agrees what I said

e6qnfe
No.163923
>>163903
>Anuloma is accepted
>and pratiloma strictly forbidden.
>This is scriptural mandate
>and even Puri shankaracharya says this
...yaar shudra...
Nārada Smṛti
अनुलोमा प्रातिलोमा च जनसङ्करसङ्कटकारिणः ।
> Anuloma and pratiloma unions cause dangerous varṇa-mixing.
वर्णभेदान्विनश्यन्ति धर्मा ह्यनुपरिपाल्यतः ॥
> Dharma is destroyed when varṇa distinctions are not preserved.
(12.93)
Viṣṇu Smṛti
शूद्राण्यपि च दाराणि ब्राह्मणोऽनधिगत्स्मृतिः ।
> A Brahmana is not permitted to marry Shudra women.
न कुर्यात्ताः कदा पत्नीः शूद्रायां स्यात्पतन्नरः ॥
> A Brahmana taking a Shudra wife falls from his status.
(24.1–2)
Parāśara Smṛti
कलौ ब्राह्मणकामस्य न शूद्रां कन्यां विवाहयेत् ।
> In Kali Yuga, a Brahmana must not marry a Shudra girl.
अनुलोमेन जातानां कलौ धर्मो न विद्यते ॥
> Offspring of anuloma unions have no dharma in Kali Yuga.
(3.10–12)
Mahābhārata (Śānti Parva)
वर्णसंकरतः सर्वं धर्मकार्यं विनश्यति ।
> All dharma is destroyed by varṇa-mixing.
राज्ञा तस्मात्प्रयत्नेन वर्णसंकरवारणम् ॥
> The king must make efforts to prevent varṇa-mixing.
(Śānti Parva, Ch. 60)
Baudhāyana Dharmasūtra
ब्राह्मणाशूद्रयां चान्ध्रश्चान्ध्रसमः स्यात् ।
> A Brahmana and Shudra woman produce a Chandāla-like son.
सर्व एते वर्णसंकरा अपसदाः स्मृता द्विजातिभिः ।
> Such offspring are varṇa-sankara and considered degraded.
(1.16.2–6)
Gautama Dharmasūtra
नान्यवर्णे स्त्रियमुपयुञ्जीत ।
> One must not marry a woman of another varṇa.
शूद्रां न विन्देत ब्राह्मणः ।
> A Brahmana must not marry a Shudra woman.
(4.1–4)
What the FUCK are you Talking about?

e6qnfe
No.163930
>>163907
>Puri shankaracharya agrees what I said
"With" what you said, and puri shankaracharya is neither a Deva, nor Scripture, what he says does not play much weight in comparison to thousand other scriptures lmao. Yaar tum cuck jeet bhi na.

e6qnfe
No.163935
>>163906
Manusmriti isn't even that bad, and even if it was yaar how retarded are you to take a codified law and hold it as means to hate a religion? This is like taking on the journal of a KKK member and trying to hate Christianity for it.
2V9lS9
No.163945


bg6yvy
No.163948
>>163945
stop trying to steelman this, you look really fucking pathetic. Hinduism has some gurus but no authority on everything. Stop trying to treat it as christcuckery or pisslam. There is no hard and fast rule. Besides, you purposefully ignore the fact that later commentators also accepted pratiloma. This literally proves we moved past the manusmriti. Fucking retard.
2V9lS9
No.163951
>>163948
You are not a real astik hindu if you don't believe in authority of shankaracharya


bg6yvy
No.163953
>>163951
you're not even heendu, what authority do you have? Its like lolberals saying 'jesus wouldn't approve of you' to conservative christians, why are they trying to make them be better christians when they(lolberals) hate christianity? lmfao even.

e6qnfe
No.163957
>>163951
I am literally Brahman yaar, astik and nastik does not mean what you think they do lmao. Yaar tum shudra bhi na XD Entire Brhaspati Sutra is Nastik lmao.
2V9lS9
No.163958
>>163953
Not even the same point. Here we are explicfly discussing hinduism so ofncourse this matters
I consider myself a cultural hindu

e6qnfe
No.163959
>>163953
Literally this lmao, if you are not Hindu then you have no weight in your words trying to quote the Hindu scriptures. Not to mention this retard can not quite even a single scripture yaar.


bg6yvy
No.163960
>>163957
kek yaar he doesn't understand shit, he's just parroting shit his retarded politician/jewtuber told him.

e6qnfe
No.163962
>>163958
>explicfly
... Yaar Pajeet
>ofncourse
... Yaar PAJEET
>cultural hindoo
Bruh what is this Iskon tier slur ToT


nDWINo
No.163963


nDWINo
No.163964


nDWINo
No.163965
>>163872
trvke

e6qnfe
No.163967
>>163945
>Only 2 of these forbid Anuloma explicitly, others are discouragement.
>Discouragement
>Forbid
...yaar shoodra
>Most scriptural concensus is anuloma is more acceptable/permitted opposed to pratiloma which is strictly forbidden
Yaar i literally pointed how even Mahabharata is against both.
>Shankaracharya is shiva by authority
If you are talking about Adi Shankaracharya, no he is not. He even meets Shiva in the form of a Chandala. Puri Shankaracharya has even less of an authority on the matter, what are you talking about lmao.

e6qnfe
No.163968
>>163963
Yaar unironically this guy should fuckinh hang himself for using those two words together. Did not think it was possible to half the intellect of the thread with two words. Archive this yaar, finish this thread yaar Dayush.


bg6yvy
No.163974

e6qnfe
No.163981
>>163974
The song that goes "puttar chamara ke" , is just actually such kino behaviour lmao. Kang on the Shudra Varna like their is no tommorow lol, you want respect? Respect yourself first, respect on your caste shamelessly.