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>>120770

>>120770

cow meat restriction was so that people didnt kill cow at the first instance of starvation. our ancients were not stupid, they knew pajeet is dumb and will kill and eat cow if he dont have food, instead of this they made cow sacred and extracted milk for longer. even in china beef was considered something you wouldnt eat, unless the cow died naturally.

even today in europe the most popular meat is pork, same with asian countries. this culture of eating beef comes from americans, who got access to large quantities of bison for free when they landed there and developed a taste for it.

>>120772

motitroon will larp all about progress and backwardness in lundia but have problem when someone try to break it out of emotional cuckry. you can either reform hinduism for eating meat or it will become irrelevant eventually when many people start realizing reality, how nothing really matters.

>>120773

its honestly so pathetic, how much more humiliation one has to face to change?

>>120774

Beef is less eaten than pork because pork is just cheap

>>120777

Beef is common now, but #1 is still pork. And it became common only after Americas was settled. Also bison, buffalo, cows all are bovines. Once they developed taste for bison, they nearly drove it to extinction, but cow became a substitute.

>>120784

yaar, i am not katua, librandu or muzzshit or bheembhangi, indians arent ready to change man. they look at prosperity of other countries but dont want to change at all to become prosperous.

>>120784

Yaar chutiye emotions cuck, i have personally killed fish, chicken and quail myself. And thats besides the point of the argument

>>120784

How does that even matter? What does killing a stock has to do with this arguement?

>>120806

I am not saying that, i am just saying Indians are badly malnourished and our daily diet lacks nutrition, roti sabji paneer milk also barely completes the need for enough protein.

if not beef, then atleast pork should be industrialized.

>>120754(OP)

Yaar bc ye libtard invasion kase hogya hamare hinduchan pe??

Janitor do something

>>120825

Yes

India got real independence after 2014

Also enjoy as much as you can because yogi will soon rape your ass for anti nationalist behaviour

>>120754(OP)

I once talked to a canadian gymcel who could overhead press 120 kg. He told me he was not some gifted athlete or anything. Just a hobbyist like most gymcels. He said OHPs of 80+ Kgs was not uncommon in gyms there and how you can meet at least one guy even in casual gyms can hit that limit.

Do you know how often I've seen Indians hit 80 kg+ OHP in gyms? 0.

>>120806

>>Prosperous countries eat meat

>>We should eat meat tooo saar

Thats not even the argument that we are making retard. Human beings are biologically designed to eat the meat of large ruminant animals first and foremost, flesh and organs both. Our second dietary source is fish. Other than this birds, eggs, dairy are also congruent to our biological diet, though not a part of it in large quantities.

Most of the vitamins and minerals you get from plants are not in human digestible forms. On top of that you get so many antinutrients like

>phytates

>lectins

>oxalates

>tannins

>saponins

>goitrogens

>glucosinolates

On top of that fertilizers and heavy metal poisoning. Even insoluble fiber is bad for you; it irritates the gut and causes ibs for a lot of people.

If i put you, motivtroon, in a jungle and tell you to subsist off of plants, you will probably eat something and poison yourself and die like a faggot. Modern vegetables have been a result of selective agriculture. They are not supposed to have so much starch. Just because eating something doesnt kill you immediately, doesnt mean that its good for you.

My whole point being, government should allow the slaughtering of some animals fish, poultry, beef, mutton, pork, etc but put strict regulations on how they are raised and harvested. These days you have stun guns and nitrogen euthanasia for quick and painless death of the animals.

>>120836

The micronutrients from plants are firstly less in quantity, they are worse in quality from a absorption point of view, and they also bring with it antinutrients which will block the little absorption that we were getting in the first place.

>>120835

5'6 74 kg I think.

>>120814

>lab-grow

the whole idea of beef is that its a ruminant animal. you feed it grass, the bacteria in its 4 chambered stomach will take out all the good stuff and put it in the animal, and it will poop out the bad stuff.

with lab grown meat, you just get the taste and texture of meat but the micronutrient profile is not guaranteed.

>>120844

Yeah he was a manlet. Professionally just worked in some retail store.

>>120820

apni maa se puch smellyali abdool

>>120848

But he was well read on gymcelling. Told me short height and arms makes for easier OHPs hence his high OHP(on the otherhand being taller with longer arms supposedly makes for easier dead lifts).

Another blackpill post. I once talked to an Indian gymcel who was depressed how naturally stronger westoids were. Apparently he was frequently strength mogged by westoids especially black guys who didn't gymcel at all. They were just regular guys.

>>120860

This I remember well. Carnivore diet. He said it was so good it cured his autoimmune disease. His gymcel routine was called GZCL.

>>120859

No pyaare, there are hundreds of micros in meat that we have not even studied in human nutrition sciences. This concept of vitamins and minerals is outdated. Recently they discovered C15 in dairy products and other ruminant meat which helps to regulate linoleic acid in your body, and such developments are happening as we go on. lab meat will pretty much never be as good as actual meat. by the time it is good enough as actual meat, they would probably have bioengineered humans to sustain on zog approved insect slop diet. We are progressing further into kaliyuga where people think eating veg carbslop and damaging the body is good for them and killing animals for food is somehow bad.

>>120870

>>120885

Cooked. Nothing that extreme.

>>120883

hindus have a sacred animal- cow because religion said so

muh morality

muh need

if you need emprical scientific data to follow your religion it means your beleif on god is dead

>>120867

Tbh. You can have a good compromise with Heendus. I remember reading that lamb/goats have better nutrient profiles than beef anyway. There's also less harm/pain incurred by these animals in an industrial setting due to their size supposedly.

>>120898

Fish is also a good option, just move to the coast, buy 30 kilo fish in bulk for cheap, store in deep freezer and use for 3 months.

>>120904

anon your reasoning is retarded, any material can be used as a disadvantage to mock you

I can stick a koran on my shield and mock moslems

Sacred animal serves as much purpose as a stone idol of shiva, it's there because religion demands it

Asking purpose or WHY? in a religion is blasphemous

If you want to follow a religion, follow it without asking or looking for scientific proof for your religion

Read Nietzsche

>>120904

>I'm not campaigning for beef consumption or nonvegetarianism in this thread.

You also have to remember that a lot of Hendus are duplicitous sadly. Everytime I act compromising they come for other meat anyway. No joke I've constantly seen them parrot globohomo vegan propaganda. Suddenly The Guardian and WSJ are trustworthy now. Veganism is gaining traction among Hendus who feel validated by the "soience". It's no longer just a sacred animal. Now, it's sattvic diet or die.

Honestly it doesnt even matter what you eat.

If a person eats trash diet, then they will suffer.

If a person eats good diet, then they will prosper.

Just focus on what you eat personally, if someone else is eating trash who cares, its just reducing competition.

>>120921

Religion itself is retarded

But asking muh reasoning behind religion is more retarded anon

Religion breaks the moment you question the divine authority of god

If you want to eat to beef go ahead but asking heendu why do you not eat cow is just low iq

>>120754(OP)

Eat what you want, beef is overrated anyways. Seafood is far more better to try

>>120942

>More focused on the "Sacred" status given to a singular animal.

I don't think that matter tbh, maybe it was considered important at that point as in the absence of factory farming, excessive killing of an animal for consumption can actually cause its scarcity even though cows are livestock. But yeah it is meaningless now.

>>120938

you're argument itself is retarded

If sacred animals can be used to mock you or against you then anything that is material can be used too, a sacred symbol like cross can create as much confusion in the battlefield as you want to

Sticking koran on my chest will make the moslems stop attacking because it's sacred

>>120933

Read on his argument against god and why scientific advancement has made people question God's authortity

>>120956

a hindu should rather kill himslef rather than doing both of these things

>>120961

I don't think my opinion matters because I don't care about religion anyways

I would rather eat beef

burn the gita if I was a hardcore hindu and believed in it

>>120965

It's not about his preaching anon

It's about his argument for belief on God

>>120960

Cow was also a unit of currency. More cow means rich person, so they were collecting cows. Killing a cow during a camine would be like putting fire to your money stacks in winter for warmth. You can just use that money to buy petrol and wood and burn those for longer. Similarly you can keep the cow and drink its milk to sustain yourself longer. Without refrigeration, beef will go bad in 3-4 days, how is a family of 5-6 people supposed to eat 500 fuckin kilos of beef in 3 days. Thats why we didnt kill cows.

>>120984

It just so happened to be the animal available to them with the max output for min input, so it became sacred.

The question as to why not goats. Goats are smaller so harder to herd. Goats are also aggressive and fight each other and also fight other animals so probably not preferred. Goatmilk is also grassy flavoured maybe that was offputting.

Kal mene millions microbes kha liye bhaiyo :((((

Me hindu ke name pe kalank hu 😭😭😭😭me murderer hu, mujhe ab nark jana pade ga bhut gand pat rhe ha😰

>>120984

>why was the cow a unit of currency and not other animals?

Cows have a stable rate of value. They produce stable milk all their life time. If fed right, all cows will weight almost same. The difference could be looked at by size alone. A single cow is easier to handle than a dozen of goats. Goats are very weak. They could easily get preyed by dogs, foxxes and other wild animal. A cow is not so. Aforementioned reasons were why cow a stable currency.

>>121004

>They produce stable milk all their life time.

No they dont.

Cows have to be pregnant or recently delivered to give milk. Before we had artificial insemination, cows would have to be impregnanted by bull and produce baby to give milk. If a cow lives for 15 years she can only give milk for 7.5 years. They can start giving milk at age 2.5 and continue till age 10. 10 to 15 fertility is low so no milk.

I recently eat beef at jantar mantar guys, i hope bjp forgive me 😰 i don't want "anti nationalist" badge (⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠)

>>121007

>cows produce stable milk all their lifetime

<now they don't

>goes onto talk about pregnancy of cows and age as if its not obvious

🤨

Or nobody wanted to disrupt the status quo. As is the case many times for inane practices.

>>121014

Meant for >>121008

>>121008

Buddhist

+

Vaishnavas

+

India is a an extremely fertile land. Most probably they just didn't need meat all the time. When buddhist ravaged the lands with their vegcuckism people were probably influneced by it for a long time. They held onto the no keel animal waah emotions for a while. Even after its banishment, the emphatical values stayed. Also vaishnavism was there with their scared cow beliefs.

Most of the general population were always poor as fuck with tons of fertile land. Cattles were needed for their labour and it would have been extremely frowned upon when a cattle was killed for food. Thats also the reason why most of the history didn't eat much cattle as primary. They were more valuable than food.

Most societies that ate beefs were either evergreenland or extreme food scarcity that they couldn't help but slaughter some cattles once a while.

>>120866

Sirs where to learn more on this topic

As for vitamins and minerals is an outdated concept

My whole biochem studies disagree

But I would still like to know more since when I incorporated milk and eggs in my diet i have become a lot healthier ad compared to getting the same proteins and macros from pure veg sources

Plus I just feel really good

Also extreme retardation still ensure in bhach seeing the general level of discourse in this thread

>>121027

Sea of retarded bhai

I ignore it and keep my mouth shut. I don't argue with dogs every time they bark either. I don’t care what they think and it's not my job to be the reality police. The very idea of fighting the stupidity is itself intrinsically idiotic, given the way in which the most obviously apt metaphor is King Canute trying to fight the sea.

>>121029

Retardry*

>>121027

Hinduism acknowledges animism but that doesn't mean it prohibits from eating animals. Animal sacrifices proves that. Hinduism is infact one the most animist religion.

>the tree is actually a god

>the cow was actually a god

>the deer is actually a rishi

>the bull is actually a symbol of yuga

Cattle was just too expensive to eat. Also Hinduism is too metal for veganism.

>>121030

The pseud is right, this is still one of the better threads.

>>121034

Absolute state

>>121000

>bhut gand pat rhe ha😰

but teri gaand toh pehle se fati thi 🤣

>>120942

Then why even use picrel in the first place? Stop being a retarded faggot, rv

>>121041

Its futile, the BhCh ecosystem is so downtrodden that it simply does not allow anything productive.

>>121044

That is true, i browse for the occasional worthwhile posts but I believe it will devolve into even more misery as if it is even possible.

>>121046

>occasional worthwhile posts

me too kek

>>121036

>but the reverence of the cow was prolly due to animistic beliefs

No.

>>120790

If we are to be completely fair, no one wants to see their inbred faces, subhuman skinny arms or their fat jiggly boy tits.

>>121031

If anything their is just a common ground of agreement that "their are certain animals that only a complete subhuman will eat". Similarly their is also a "thess animals who are just too important to kill".

Anything other than that, when it comes to diet is strictly a matter of one's sampradaya, and that is something we all need to find peace with. One will have to understand that Vaishnava do not eat meat because lord resides in everything, and while one may say meat, he can respect another man for not eating it.

Similarly one has to find some peace with the Shakta sampraday that follow animal sacrifice, in same manner, knowing in the end the soul shall return to its maker. You can't force other to abide by dietary preference of your sampraday, and it is something people have to shake hands on no matter how much it pisses them off.

>>121105

Leave my great nation you librand traitor scum

Hindustan is for hindus only

>>121047

This guy has been mindraped by janny kek

>>121113

sure dumeel sandas cleaner sure. i totally wrote bareme like a hsl dumeel lemur

>>121113

btw how convenient is it that you managed to get 2 ''meri maa'' ss to post against me. (against me) the guy who has been lurking here for 2 years now and supposedly got filtered twice within the same hour?? kek do you dumeels not realise how pathetic your attempts at larping are. sub 80 iq populace for a reason ig kekda

btw my picrel has proof of you replying to my post by checking the post numbers whereas you have no proof that i even created those threads(spoiler: i didnt. ask gayaush to check ips ig). also both your ss have hindi written in a soythie flair like our verified dumeel TL does. so go figure. now about being mindraped we can definitely conclude that you fucked up so bad that you had to create larps so that you wouldnt be mocked. imagine an existence being so pathetic. only in lungiland kek. closing reminder to you soythies - nakal karne ke liye bhi akal lagti hai

https://bharatchan.com/board/b/thread/120690

baaki idhar toh tumne bohot cope kiya hi tha wont read bolke kek. apne baap ka toh proof hai na ya padosi tumhari maa ki garmi ko thanda karta hai lol

>>120754(OP)

people who defend eating meat are always the ones who eat it , so they will have to defend eating it anyways and they also change hinduism acc. to their own convenience to justify them eating meat.

Most of the people in Haryana are vegetarian but still most olympiic medals come from their .

olympic bronze medalist sushil kumar is a pure vegetarian like most of them.

vedas clearly state not eat meat .

if you still want eat it pls eat it but do not incorporate hinduism saying that it allows you to eat meat. You can do anything if you want to but ultimately its all KARMA.

I am pure vegetarian , 193 cm ,90 kgs.

>>121261

haha you are right

>>121258

>vedas clearly state not eat meat

Achha laude

>>121311

>Rather, we are selectively choosing to consume them despite having other sources of nutrition

Pls go and study about these other sources of nutrition. Check whether their nutrients are in human bioavailable forms. Check the quantity of said nutrients. Check the antinutrients. Etc.

>farming them en masse and pushing them in the meat grinder just to have fat ogres and goblins amongst humans to consoooom

Stupid argument. They are fat ogres and goblins precisely due to eating a processed slop diet. If they ate a natural human diet consisting of mainly animal products, everyone would be at their best health conditions. No heart disease, no diabetes, no obesity, etc. Funny how you hold two opposing beliefs at the same time.

Industrial farmed animals are okay so long as they are raised optimally and butchered painlessly. No halal bullshit. Every animal (including ourselves) will die one day, now whether they die and end up in my stomach or they die and end up being decomposed by bacteria is not my concern, point is that they die.

>humans are not automatically above nature by virtue of being uniquely chosen to have those attributes.

You made the correct argument that humans are not above nature and then you went on to ramble about how eating animals is bad. Pure retardness.

If we are not above nature, then we have to adhere to nature's rules and eat what we have biologically evolved to eat, which is meat.

If we one day become above nature, maybe we become a spacefaring race who has conquered the galaxy, maybe then we would have enough technology to monitor all our biomarkers properly, and design a food which is completely vegan and still gives us all our nutrition.

In the bhagvad gita, the satvik-rajasic-tamasic foods description only gives you the qualities of food like juicyness, sweetness, sourness, temperature, pungent, etc. It doesnt specifically ban meat. But there is another verse in the bhagvad purana (iirc) which says that kalki will destroy all the meat eaters. But the nuance is that this event is gonna happen at the end of kaliyuga, by which point humans would have evolved significantly both biologically and technologically to a level where meat eating would not be necessary. And in those conditions, if you eat meat without neccessity, you are commiting a sin. Rest assured you can eat meat at this point in time.

Also know that a person can only eat a finite amount of meat in his whole lifetime. Lets say i eat 6 eggs a day and some dairy and 250g meat per day. This means that in a year i would eat around 91kg meat. Or you can say 91 chickens in a year. If i live 100 years, i would have eaten 9100 chickens in my whole life. This is probably counted as nimit karma (karma which was required for survival) and we wouldnt get any sin for it. However if i eat lets say 50,000 chickens in my whole life im probably incurring lots of sin because im eating more than needed. Which means inneccessant killing, therefore sin.

>>121379

holy shit sandasanon is back. abb gayaush ki maa chudegi kekekekekekek

>>121176

>>121194

>wall of seethe

>>121428

rv lodu you cant play on behalf of mod kek. also youve no proof that it was me in that ss. you will try to cope by saying wall of xyz everytime because you cant do anything about it

>>121428

btw check the picrels atleast and tell me the irony randi ke pille

>>121472

>>121474

>still seething

>>121503

read

>>121472

>>121474

>>121506

>>121620

>coping with fake ss

picrel OG

>>121247

is poop veg or non veg?

>>121627

Archive/pdf?

>>121629

apni maa se puch

>>121628

depends on what the person ate last night

>>121631

Par teri maa ne to mujhe bata diya

>>121638

source iski maa ki gaand

>>121656

Mindbroken

>>121663

source iski maa ki gaand

>>121669

apni maa chudale bhangi ke bacche