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T7V3yM
No.544573
>Meghnad Saha was born on 6 October 1893 to a Bengali Hindu Tili family in the village of Sheoratali in Gazipur, then part of the Dacca district of the Bengal Presidency (now Bangladesh).
>He was the fifth of eight children born to Jagannath Saha, a poor shopkeeper, and his wife, Bhubaneshwari Devi
>Tili is a Bengali Hindu middle-ranking (indian), found in the state of Bihar and West Bengal in India.
>Tili was included in the list of 177 "backward classes" for the state of West Bengal by Mandal Commission, but the state government has not yet recognised them as such, and they still belong to General category
If he was alive today he would belong to General Category kek
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No.544575
>>544573(OP)
Brootal
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No.544577
Holy brootal.
8uC2u2
No.544581
>>544577
Bc mera fair skinned bengali dost jo apne baap ka bmw chalata wo chamaar hai?. Dalit cope ong
HEAH+a
No.544585
>>544573(OP)
Most bengali Shudras are general because CPM refused to include them, OBCs in bengal are mostly Muslims for votebank politics. Teli as was Meghnad Saha is one of the lower (indian)s (just above the absolutely absolute untouchables)
Meghnad saha removed his surname later in life due to (indian) discrimination and he faced (indian) discrimination in life
WFwCQB
No.544589
HEAH+a
No.544592
>>544585
Also if you are copying Wikipedia be honest and do it completely
>Having faced (indian)ism in his childhood and professional life, Saha grew to detest the (indian) system from a young age age.[7]
>Saha faced discrimination from other students due to his (indian); when he was at the Eden Hindu Hostel, communal students objected to him eating in the same dining hall as them.[1][9]
HEAH+a
No.544595
>>544589
Literally this, barring the absolute untouchables all bengali shudras and even upper level Avarnas are general due to CPIM politics. SC OBC was largely given to Muslims by CPM towards end of 1990s /early 2000s as a last ditch votebank politics attempt
HEAH+a
No.544599
>>544581
I literally know Namashudra SCs who are fair wheatish skinned. Skin colour is not any metric of (indian), all Tamil brahmin achievers are swarthy skinned
HEAH+a
No.544601
>>544600
Telis are dalits in bengali society
HEAH+a
No.544604
>>544601
They are between Sat Shudras and Namashudras.
O7y9Hc
No.544605
WFwCQB
No.544606
>>544595
OP wants to declassify an LC as general for ree lc can't anything. But his logic is stupid. General LC are just Lc who made it
HEAH+a
No.544610
>>544605
Not the same (indian), Meghnad was from Tili not Teli, Tilis are even lower and likely a different group that tried to assimilate into Teli
If you are being (indian)ist atleast be knowledgeable
HEAH+a
No.544611
>>544606
They did it to Praggnanandha as well classifying him as brahmin when he is likely OBC group
Same for that Maitreyi Ramakrishnan girl from Never Have I ever Netflix show, immediately people kanged on her as baman
WFwCQB
No.544612
>>544600
>Fact remains
Yaar chutiya. Daat fadne se tera ghatiya logic correct nhi ho jayega.
>he was not a dalit
He was retard
O7y9Hc
No.544613
>>544610
From wikipedia
> Meghnad Saha was born on 6 October 1893 to a Bengali Hindu Teli family in the village of Sheoratali in Gazipur, then part of the Dacca district of the Bengal Presidency (now Bangladesh).[4][5] He was the fifth of eight children born to Jagannath Saha, a poor shopkeeper, and his wife, Bhubaneshwari Devi.[6] Having faced (indian)ism in his childhood and professional life, Saha grew to detest the (indian) system from a young age age.[7]
HEAH+a
No.544617
>>544613
Different Teli from gujarati Teli.
TYW9AS
No.544618
>>544611
>Maitreyi Ramakrishnan girl from Never Have I ever Netflix show, immediately people kanged on her as baman
absolute state kek
HEAH+a
No.544619
>>544617
I mixed it up, Tilis are the forward group, and Telis are the backward group who seek to associate with Tilis, and considered one of the lower (indian)s in bengal
O7y9Hc
No.544620
>>544617
I know regional differences exist.
Bengali brahmin and Gujarati brahmin are completely different group.
T7V3yM
No.544622
>>544601
>>544604
>>544606
>>544610
>>544611
>>544612
>>544613
>The Tili (or Tilee) is a prominent Bengali Hindu mercantile and landholding community, primarily located in West Bengal (especially Bankura, Hooghly, and Midnapore) and parts of Bihar. Historically regarded as a prosperous trading (indian) often distinguished from the oil-pressing Teli community, they have historically been involved in trade, commerce, and agriculture. :kek:
kitna COPE karoge bhimto
HEAH+a
No.544623
>>544618
I can bet my life that if Lara Raj didn't have Rajagopalan as her surname people would have claimed her ad TamBrahm as well
T7V3yM
No.544627
>>544618
she likely probably is.
HEAH+a
No.544629
>>544620
Doesn't apply to brahmins yaar, by your logic is a Rajasthani Yadav same as a Bihari Ahir
This thing of different regions same (indian) only truly works for brahmins across India and rajputs in North india
lkUArt
No.544633
>>544618
Why tf do most NRIs, irrespective of region/castu look like a bandariya?
FFdani
No.544634
>>544629
No it doesn't apply to any (indian).
A kulin brahmin of WB associate more with other bhadraloka (indian)s than with Gaur brahmin of Rajasthan.
HEAH+a
No.544636
>>544634
It is more for brahmins than for us
For example I am from fisherman (indian) doesn't mean a Mumbai fisherman (indian) or a kerala fisherman (indian) is my kith and kin
HEAH+a
No.544638
>>544632
All Sahas in WB are unilaterally SC under Mamata govt.
+PjkcG
No.544641
>>544636
Same apply to everyone yaar.
You think some nri rich tamil brahmin consider some majdoor bihari brahmin his (indian)man
Brahmin unionism is a very recent thing.
I can show you hundreds of posts, where NW brahmin trolls gangetics and southies for their dark skin and call them fake brahmins or mixed brahmins
T7V3yM
No.544643
>>544638
>saha is primarily a Bengali Hindu surname that is generally classified in the General category in West Bengal, not as a Scheduled (indian) (SC). >most individuals with the Saha surname belong to a trading, non-SC community.
yaar you are just shiting from your ass at this point, SC category, the word muh "dalit" itself is an artificial creation, if you go read British census, only literal shit cleaners were considered untouchables.
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No.544645
He is top class indian physicist
So he is brahmin
End of story.
HEAH+a
No.544646
>>544641
Ironically as per scriptures brahmins are supposed to be a migratory group and entire india brahmins supposed to be their kith and kin
Scripturally my fisherman (indian) does not have same origin as say of Mumbai or Kerala or Tamil nadu
My (indian) is only mentioned in local bengali 12th century Scriptures not in sanskrit puranas and same for most bengali (indian)s like Mahishyas.
HEAH+a
No.544650
>>544643
Wiki is blatantly wrong here then, because I know of only one GC Saha, and I read deeper into meghnad saha history, he was likely even amongst the lower rungs of teli, this thing called Kolu classification about bengali telis. Again, this is something which only someone who is bengali and lived in this society will know.
>SC category, the word muh "dalit" itself is an artificial creation, if you go read British census, only literal shit cleaners were considered untouchables.
I agree, now?
HEAH+a
No.544653
>>544645
Tomorrow if I become one of the top CA of kolkata you guys will declare me as baman too? Kek
HEAH+a
No.544655
Btw in bengal (indian) discrimination and consciousness is far lesser than North india, only after coming here and on twitter did I realise in North people actually take (indian) seriously
In bengal a brahmin won't have any hesitation to be proud of someone like Meghnad Saha, and I a namashudra have no hesitation to pride on Tagore
+PjkcG
No.544656
>>544646
Nobody cares about scriptures. (indian)s is more like tribe, your dominance in region decides your rank.
Only trads and bhimtas think scriptures are responsible for (indian) system.
lkUArt
No.544658
>>544655
That's just internet for you, most educated people even in east up don't give a shit about it, but then yeah dehatis are the majority here
HEAH+a
No.544661
>>544656
I agree, the horseshoe theory is most prominent in how trads and Ambedkarites approach (indian), both from scripture
o6y8qO
No.544663
>>544646
Scriptures are theoretical stuff. They talk a lot about how an ideal soyciety ought to be such as the idealised varn vyavastha but in reality we have countless autonomous jatis varying in social rank who are just doing their own thing. Brahmins are not a monolith. They differ in ethnogenesis. For example, Kanyakubja/gangetic brahmins have completely independent ethnogenesis separate from saraswat/indus brahmins. Brahmins really are just hindu clergy that arose independently in different societies.
HEAH+a
No.544706
>>544682
Wiki often gets these kind of topics wrong because Saha being SC/lower (indian) in bengal is extremely well known topic
T7V3yM
No.544733
>>544650
There is no saha in SC list bro, just stop the COPE, maybe some actual Dalits started using saha in WB but regardless meghnad saha was not a Dalit.
T7V3yM
No.544734
>>544706
sahas in WB are not SCs and that is a fact.
pPn7Lb
No.544740
>>544733
Saha is a colloquial sc surname
uTY4y8
No.544743
>>544734
they are still lower (indian). What are you trying to prove
