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i notice many non-brahmins are jealous of jats
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why is this chan so cucky?
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Is he correct about Southies?
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i notice many non-brahmins are jealous of jats
iHNuwM
No.105710
post similar caste mechanics from your region
dkSmX0
No.105711
iHNuwM
No.105712
>>105711
yup, best wrestlers in the W.O.R.L.D
9YO1gm
No.105722
>>105710(OP)
In Sindhi we refer muslims as jatt
A common Sindhi saying, "jatt kadi bhi vendo phatt"
Translation - jatt kabhi bhi jayega phatt
IIkMyu
No.105728
>>105710(OP)
Jaats are also descended from indo aryan tribes
Gujjars have some special love hate relationship against jaats
Rajputs in Rajasthan have some political rivalry with jaats
IIkMyu
No.105730
>>105722
are you the sindhi khatri who had his upanayan sanaskaar ritual few months ago
IIkMyu
No.105735
>>105712
Intrestingly other aryan communities from Iran are also very good in wrestling
Something in the blood? 👀
9YO1gm
No.105736
>>105730
Yes, my close relative passed away so janayu Sanskar got postponed

IG5lr3
No.105737
>>105710(OP)
I have noticed tht jaats dislike brahmans why is tht? but brahmans don't usually.
M8iRFp
No.105741
>>105710(OP)
muthal don ke tatte yaha bhi aa gye
0DX0jN
No.105742
9YO1gm
No.105744
>>105735
Wrestling was famous among Persians as well as people living east of river sindh that's why they are good at it. It's like asking why are Marathis good at Malkhamb because generally they are the only ones who practice it. Many indian wrestlers majority of them being jaat get defeated by Persians, cubans and American ls at world stage
IIkMyu
No.105745
iHNuwM
No.105746
>>105735
steppe aryan dna
IIkMyu
No.105748
>>105742
of course the average person from any community doesn't have any anoymisity towards anyone, but I was talking about mainly political scenario
IIkMyu
No.105753
>>105744
I see
IIkMyu
No.105754
>>105746
Yeahh
iHNuwM
No.105755
>>105737
jats have good relations with brahmins ever since this country partitioned.
listen @ 1:15, the singer is jatt
IIkMyu
No.105757
>>105755
brahmins have good realtion with pretty much all dominant communities of every region
0a7/2D
No.105759
It was a nice break for a while, but now we are back to the usual caste and regional kanging as always
0DX0jN
No.105770

DzgWfb
No.105773
>>105710(OP)
Bihari number 1
https://youtube.com/shorts/9Qkx-ZgX4xk?si=2KyTwLXskw-NEjVG
Jai bihari jai bihar 😈
iHNuwM
No.105774
IIkMyu
No.105776
>>105770
are you a hindu gujjar or muslim gujjar? since most hindu gujjars are in NCR and khatris are also heavily concentrated in Delhi
IIkMyu
No.105777
>>105774
arora and khatri are different

IG5lr3
No.105781
>>105755
Meaning? Bamano ka chora?
0DX0jN
No.105783
>>105776
hindu gujjar
from west up settled in west delhi
I think khatris are concentrated mostly in west delhi if I am not Wrong

IG5lr3
No.105785
IIkMyu
No.105786
>>105783
Yes mostly west delhi, but in other parts as well, i think northern delhi is mostly inhabited by jaats followed by brahmans due to close proximity to Haryana
0DX0jN
No.105791
>>105786
are you from west delhi too
IIkMyu
No.105795
>>105791
Nope, but I know about delhi's demographics
iHNuwM
No.105805
>>105777
nowadays aroras call themselves khatria and intermarry with khatris.
I know that aroras were originally baniyas from sindh and khatris were originally kshatriyas from hindu shahi kingdom of gandhara region.
kshetra = khet (punjabi/haryanvi)
kshatriya = khatri (punjabi/haryanvi)
IIkMyu
No.105809
>>105805
yep spot on
0DX0jN
No.105815
>>105805
>nowadays aroras call themselves khatria and intermarry with khatris.
I know that aroras were originally baniyas from sindh and khatris were originally kshatriyas from hindu shahi kingdom of gandhara region.
kshetra = khet (punjabi/haryanvi)
kshatriya = khatri (punjabi/haryanvi)
>>105805
last hindu shahi was jaipal khatana
khatana is a very big clan of gujjars
khatri and gujjars are closely related too as they both are the closest to Gandhara grave culture
SpjfxI
No.105816
>>105712
Kek. Best wrestlers in the world are mongols.
0DX0jN
No.105827
>>105816
they are pretty good but not the best
IIkMyu
No.105830
>>105816
not true, iran , usa and Russia mog in Olympics wrestling
iHNuwM
No.105831
>>105815
hindu shahi rulers were Brahmins, their ministers were Brahmins and Khatris.
I don't know where gujjars come into this equation.
Gurhara-Pratihara kingdom of India got split up into multiple clans in India, some clans were assimilated in Rajput fold and some clans remained separated and mixed Van gujjars and other shepherd castes with them and composed the modern gujjar caste.
Carryminati is a direct descendant of Gurjara-Pratiharas.
SpjfxI
No.105833
>>105805
Khatris were kshatriyas? Any source? Many non warrior castes claim to be descended from kshatriyas but those claims are unsubstantiated.
0DX0jN
No.105835
>>105831
>shahi rulers were Brahmins, their ministers were Brahmins and Khatris.
I don't know where gujjars come into this equation.
Gurhara-Pratihara kingdom of India got split up into multiple clans in India, some clans were assimilated in Rajput fold and some clans remained separated and mixed Van gujjars and other shepherd castes with them and composed the modern gujjar caste.
Carryminati is a direct descendant of Gurjara-Pratiharas.
nah I disagree
SpjfxI
No.105837
>>105830
Talk in per capita terms nigha. Mongolia just has a pop. of 3million. Also any chinese wrestling champions are ethnic mongols.
iHNuwM
No.105838
>>105833
only dhai-ghar khatris.
later arora mixed clans were attributed vaishya status by the brahmins of north-west
iHNuwM
No.105842
>>105833
IIkMyu
No.105843
>>105833
no their claims are valid in many cases , there was a mathurai lodhi anon here whose community held kshatriya status earlier, but somewhere in mediveal century they lost it
IIkMyu
No.105847
>>105835
?
IIkMyu
No.105850
>>105837
Per capita logic is flawed, by using per capita logic, Ireland comes out to be the best Mma country
iHNuwM
No.105854
>>105847
gujjars weren't there in Hindu shahi kingdom. They originated from the gurjara-pratihara alchon-huns central asian tribes.
iHNuwM
No.105857
>>105847
alchon-huns ancetry is high among Rajputs of rajasthan and gujjars.
Jats on other hand originated from sakas (scythians) of central asia.
Xwad32
No.105859
Gurjars are bhenschor isse jyada kuch nahi
SpjfxI
No.105861
>>105831
Isnt gujjar just an umbrella term for various unrelated herding communities? There are gujjars in JK who are genetically and linguistically different from gujjars of mainland india.
0DX0jN
No.105862
>>105847
jaipal khatana the last hindu shahi was a gujjar because he had khatana as his surname and there are no khatana brahmins
To this day there are khatana and Awana gujjars in Afghanistan you can look it up
SpjfxI
No.105868
>>105850
I am talking about olympics. Mongols are also no.1 in sumo wrestling.
0DX0jN
No.105871
>>105861
no all gujjars score same from all regions minor differences are there you can look it up on reddit but rajputs score drastically different form region to region

ksy0D4
No.105875
>>105857
Dehatio ne firse caste nogery chalu kardi. You will always be a poojeet
0DX0jN
No.105876
>>105857
wtf is archon hun ancestry you don't know bs
iHNuwM
No.105877
>>105861
yes those are the herder ones. Even Gujjars in west UP consist of many herding (originally) gotras which mixed heavily with descendants of Gurjara-Pratiharas in medieval times.
Same case as yadavs.
0DX0jN
No.105879
>>105876
alchon huns did not mix with gujjars they were just allied
iHNuwM
No.105881
>>105876
alchon huns are the ancestors of rajputs. Its a well know fact accepted by everyone.
iHNuwM
No.105883
>>105879
some clans of Gujjars descend from Alchon-Huns, the same alchon-huns were ancestors of Rajputs of rajasthan
IIkMyu
No.105884
>>105854
Even Gujarat and Gujaranwala in pakistan is named after gujars iirc
0DX0jN
No.105885
>>105877
nah
gujjars are among the least scoring people there you can check while brahmins score aasi in 40s
iHNuwM
No.105886
>>105875
ignoer this thread dalit

ksy0D4
No.105888
>>105881
Rajputs are descended from shudras
0DX0jN
No.105889
>>105881
haha
IIkMyu
No.105890
>>105883
what about thakurs and rajputs of Up and bihar??
iHNuwM
No.105892
>>105885
alchon huns weren't AASI. They are central asians.
SpjfxI
No.105893
>>105881
Its far from a 'fact'. No evidence just a hypothesis.
IIkMyu
No.105894
>>105857
All 3 belong to indo aryan tribes paternally
0DX0jN
No.105895
>>105890
they score very high aasi and different from other rajputs
Xwad32
No.105896
Abe yar gurjar are just bhenschor low caste charwahe shudras literally garadiya tier caste
/u6z37
No.105897
R1a frequency is highest among bamans
Its the trve test of aryanness
IIkMyu
No.105898
>>105862
I see
iHNuwM
No.105899
>>105888
nope, rajputs descended from rigvedic mlechhas of central asia. Their position in varna heirarchy was improved by brahmins after they conquered large parts of northern India and mass converted to Hinduism.
IIkMyu
No.105900
>>105868
hmm
0DX0jN
No.105902
0DX0jN
No.105905
>>105899
rajput term came after 12 century
IIkMyu
No.105906
>>105902
Rajputs claim descent from vedic kshatriyas
many rajputs also claim mahavir and buddha to be rajputs
iHNuwM
No.105907
>>105890
they patrilineally descend from the same people.
Their ancestors married more native women in comparison to Rajputs of Sindh/jammu/Rajasthan. They have a very strong gotra system like Jats which preserves their patrilineage.
IIkMyu
No.105908
>>105907
I see
IIkMyu
No.105909
>>105895
You are talking about autosomal ancestry, in autosomal ancestry even south indian brahmins score different but ydna ancestry is similar
0DX0jN
No.105911
>>105906
nah they are just bull shitting
SpjfxI
No.105914
>>105877
There is a lot of confusion and lack of consensus on relationship between gujjar caste and gurjara pratiharas. Gurjaradesa was the older name of gujarat where gujjars arent found. So it is possible that 'gurjara' in 'gurjara pratihara' has a regional or geographical connotation and is unrelated to gujjar caste.
iHNuwM
No.105915
>>105902
>tocharians
They never conquered India, their paternal haplogroubs awere R1b and C2a. Maybe some alchon-huns tribes raped/stole their women in between their way to India.
0DX0jN
No.105916
>>105909
you know nothing about genetics
IIkMyu
No.105917
IIkMyu
No.105918
>>105916
Why do you think so?
iHNuwM
No.105920
>>105905
i agree, the earliest rajput kingdom was created by pratiharas in Rajasthan who called themselves chamanas (later chauhanas)
iHNuwM
No.105923
>>105906
Buddha and Mahavir belonged to OG aryan tribes of vedic era. Nowadays their descended have degraded to shudra status and are mixed heavily with natives and observe minimal hinu rituals.
SpjfxI
No.105924
>>105907
No evidence whatsoever. Rajputs are likely just the nobility of their respective regions who started claiming kshatriya status.
0DX0jN
No.105925
>>105915
your entire research is based on haplogroups which do matter but not very much
Kushans were tocharians who had r1a paternal haplogroups
also tocharians had many indo aryans haplogroups
kushan - Kushana- kasana also a very prominent gotra in gujjars
iHNuwM
No.105926
>>105914
brahmins aren't found in afghanistan and gandhara yet they were rulers of Hindu Shahi.
0DX0jN
No.105929
>>105926
that's what I am saying
you can look it up gujjars khatris arains are closest to gandhar grave culture
SpjfxI
No.105930
>>105925
>kushan - Kushana- kasana.
Using phonetic similarities as evidence is really retarded tbh. Reminds me of that retard PN Oak.
iHNuwM
No.105931
>>105917
different clans who were never a single caste until british forced them to race-mix by merging them into a single caste because according to christianity and all abrahimic religions everyone is equal in the kingdom of god.
Even today Yadavs of Haryana (Ahir) don't marry with gwalas of UP Bihar.
c8ty4o
No.105932
>>105917
All are bhangi chamaar mutts not worth discussing
a10nDD
No.105933
>91 replies
Holyyy caste scientists are back reeee
0DX0jN
No.105936
>>105931
ony harayana ahir are OG
Xwad32
No.105938
>>105936
Haryana ahirs are more jhantu than bihari ahirs
iHNuwM
No.105940
>>105925
Kushanas splitted into different tribes of different castes (shudras because Buddhists). The Mathuria Lodhi guy was probably a descendant of Kushanas beacuse Mathura was the capital of Kushanas.
No rajputs descended from kushanas beacsue they followed buddhism.
I guess there might be some gotras of gujjars, rors and other shudras from that region who descended from Kushanas as well but they mixed with other castes heavily beacuse they didn't observed Hindu rules like other "upper" castes who never converted to buddhism.
SpjfxI
No.105941
>>105926
But gujarat was known as gurjaradesa even before the rise of pratiharas. So it is kind of retarded to assume gurjar in gurjar pratihara is a caste identifier. It could very well be just a geographical descriptor.
iHNuwM
No.105945
>>105938
central UP ahir Yadavs look best among all ahirs.
Punjab-Haryan Ahirs look a bit ugly due to lack of sharp facial features maybe beacuse they were mixing with other lower caste tribes from that region and sindh.
0DX0jN
No.105946
>>105941
rajputs use this same reason but are not able to prove many things they say
iHNuwM
No.105948
>>105941
I agree with this.
We shouldn't mix geographical terms-castes-gotras. These 3 things are seperate among non-brahmin castes.
0DX0jN
No.105949
Xwad32
No.105950
>>105945
No ahirs look best sale retard
iHNuwM
No.105953
>>105949
they are shudras like kambojs who were aryans in pre vedic period but degraded to mlechhas status due to non-observance of rituals.
Some traditional brahmins even consider Khatris as shudras due to their varna-sankara (caste mixing) with aroras.
Xwad32
No.105954
>>105949
Gurjars are not farmers ullu ke patthe they are pastoralists like garadiya
iHNuwM
No.105956
>>105950
I have seen some very pathan looking ahirs in central UP
iHNuwM
No.105957
>>105954
gujjars do both things. you are probably talking about a specific region probably NCR.
Xwad32
No.105958
>>105956
Han to unki daadi master angrej ke saath soti hogi azadi se pehle isliye
0DX0jN
No.105959
>>105954
gadariya are in no way shape or form related to gujjars
this can be proven wring genetically
SpjfxI
No.105960
>>105924
The biggest meme is there are fucking manipuri and chinki pahadi rajputs and chinki nepali dynasties claiming descent from chittor. Its all just unrelated nobility of various regions who started claiming rajput/kshatriyahood, wearing sacred thread and inventing genealogies. Rajputs of og rajputana(rajasthan) themselves dont consider those people as rajputs. Was common back in the day to invent fancy ancestry to legitimize your rule.
iHNuwM
No.105961
>>105958
I don't know, maybe they mixed with the women of some defeated pathans in that region.
iHNuwM
No.105962
>>105959
gadariya is a seperate caste in UP
0DX0jN
No.105963
>>105953
you are right
but in vedic period brahmin were indo aryans but brahmin was a occupational term
iHNuwM
No.105964
>>105960
only these are certified rajputs, rest are just 'we wuzzers'
https://www.indianrajputs.com/history/
official website of rajputs
iHNuwM
No.105965
>>105963
i agree
Xwad32
No.105966
SpjfxI
No.105967
>>105946
Just like gujjars arent able to prove their claims. Personally i am neither a raju, jhant or goojar. I am just a history enthusiast. As an outsider to these caste wars all i see is three camps yapping all day about their glorious origins but dont have any evidence whatsoever.
IIkMyu
No.105969
>>105923
>shudra status
Which communities?
>aryan tribes of vedic era
are their desecdants still in India
iHNuwM
No.105970
>>105964
this website consists Rajputs clans from paskitan as well.
see Bhatis from whom Bhutto descends
Xwad32
No.105971
>>105962
Mp rajasthan m bhi hote hein be
bS4SBU
No.105973
SpjfxI
No.105974
>>105964
>certified rajputs.
Rajputs outside rajasthan arent og rajputs. They rajputized later as recently as during the british raj. Noble/zamindar/landowning class existed in every village but they fabricated geneaologies to claim kshatriya/rajput status by linking themselves to ram krishna or other legendary kings. Today they might be recognized as rajputs but all their fancy claims they yap about are unsubstantiated.
elim0n
No.105976
0DX0jN
No.105977
>>105967
ok I will not kang anymore
its just that I have researched a lot on these things.
all caste/tribes have glorious histories.
fun fact : aryans were indigenous to india in next ten years this will be proven meaning oldest r1a sample will be found in india .BOOKMARK THIS
elim0n
No.105979
Vithavya was a descendant of Angiras. The dynasties of Panchala, Kuru, Kashi, and notable figures like Mitra, Kanva, Mudgal, Rajisvan, Kakshivana, and Rathitara are all associated with the Bharadvaja lineage, as referenced in ancient Brahmans texts and the Vedas.
0DX0jN
No.105980
iHNuwM
No.105982
>>105969
>Which communities?
can trace exactly beacuse nobody kept their lineage records like Brahmins maintain theirs along with other upper castes of hindus at Haridwar, Peohwa, Varanasi etc places
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_genealogy_registers_at_Haridwar
Thats how modern Rors lost track of their claims to ancient kingdoms despite the fact that some Rors clans (turans, Kainwals, mehla etc) have the highest (even higher than pathans) steppe ancestry in south asia, they only score below Lithuanians in andronovo ancestry.
elim0n
No.105985
>>105977
That is impossible tbh...IVC being Sanskrit via Iranian homeland is more probable (if you wish to pursue) , OIT is just straight away impossible
0DX0jN
No.105987
>>105982
speaking of gujjars
there 's a pandit who comes every year to our house and has a record of our gotra's history and
name of my ancestors .
all history of every gujjar gotra is kept by a pandit.
He narrates it like a song .
SpjfxI
No.105989
>>105982
Kitna yap karega bhai? You have no evidence whatsoever of your fancy claims. Keep assuming and inventing stuff. No educated person has got time to take your unfalsifiable claims seriously.
iHNuwM
No.105996
>>105974
some of them are legitimate rajputs who migrated from rajasthan to establish kingdom in those places.
Even the original Rajputs of Rajasthan consider them legit. Their list is provided in the site I posted above.
The gunda politicians of UP like Brijesh Singh, Dhananjay Singh (married a Reddy) and Brijbhushan Singh (the olympian rapist) are original Rajputs who have familial ties in Rajsthan dating back to 400-500 years.
elim0n
No.105998
0DX0jN
No.105999
>>105985
every science,philosphy,culture cam from the banks of ganga voltaire quoted this nonetheless this will all be proven eventually once our economy grows and government starts investing in this like archeology history and other things.
elim0n
No.106001
>>105999
you are talking about a later period, both of these are way off and do not match the timing of either immigration or emmigration, not worth discussing
iHNuwM
No.106002
SpjfxI
No.106003
>>105987
Those are bhats. They were paid by their patrons to glorify their patrons.
elim0n
No.106004
>>106002
he might be a periyarist who likes labeling everyone in the subcon as the same
X1hBX0
No.106007
Can you tell me anything if I say I am shandilya gotra honorable caste scientists
0DX0jN
No.106008
>>106004
I am not periyaristfag and I am pro hindu(not like the cringe ones though)
iHNuwM
No.106009
>>106008
he is not talking about you yaara
elim0n
No.106010
>>106008
I am not talking about you, I am talking about the other guy
anyway oral traditions have been a key way of preserving history in india, before mauryan era even The vedas very recited and memorized orally, writing wasn't a major part of early hinduism
SpjfxI
No.106011
>>105996
No evidence whatsoever. Late claims to koi bhi kar sakta hai. Ye medieval dark ages nahi hai jahan kuch bhi claim karlo aur bholi bhali janta maan legi. Har ek claim ka contemporary evidence manga jayega.
iHNuwM
No.106013
X1hBX0
No.106014
>>106007
Plz tell saar
iHNuwM
No.106015
>>106011
bro many rajputs clans legit ruled in UP, Madhya Pradesh and other regions.
Its all recorded histor and is a part of NCERT as well.
Prithviraj "Chauhan" ruled Delhi yaar.
elim0n
No.106017
>>106007
you are descended from Shandilya rishi
SpjfxI
No.106018
elim0n
No.106023
>>106018
Cool
iHNuwM
No.106024
>>106014
I had a classmate whose surname was shandilya, he looked abbo af despite the fact he was from Ghaziabad.
Shandilyas afaik are a sub-gotra of kanyajubja brahmins. Kanyakubja brahmins were considered the highest gotra of brahmins during the period when Islamic invasions just started in central India.
Fun fact: One sub-gotra of Kanjyakubja brahmins eats meat as well (kali worship) and they freely marry with other gotras of Brahmins.
X1hBX0
No.106025
iHNuwM
No.106026
>>106020
its partly history and partly mythology.
iHNuwM
No.106027
>>106025
generally the vaishanavite gotras of north india will NEVER marry with a meat eating gotra of kanyakubja or bengali and other coastal brahmins.
elim0n
No.106028
>>106024
Kanyakubja, saryuparin are just classifications based on where these people resided
Shandilya is descended from one of the sapta rishi Kashyap
Shandilya had made contributions in yoga sahityas iirc, he also had a vaidyalya
elim0n
No.106029
>>106024
>sub gotras
that's a wrong word I think, also even this sub gotra of kanyakubja thing is debated
0DX0jN
No.106030
kushans were indians they were shown out of india during a battle
Then the Went upwards to Tarim basin controlling the silk route defeating everyone from mongols to greeks
they were indian can be proven very easily because they spoke prakrit.
They then re-conquered india and assimilated peacefully cause they knew everything from our culture and language .
Kushan descended form kush(son of shri rama).
the mummies found in Tarim basin today are all caucasians feature which also tells how ancient Indians looked.
they were thrown out of kashi where they ruled and when the went to Tarim basin they named the place kashghar which is still to this day is called kashghar
-ignore typos
iHNuwM
No.106033
iHNuwM
No.106035
>>106029
its called up-gotras
elim0n
No.106037
>>106030
Indian would be wrong word, you could say Indo aryans, also weren't they Zoroastrians? Vedic hinduism and Zoroastrianism are almost sister religions
Xwad32
No.106039
>>105980
Stop the larp lode no gurjar is taller than 5"11
iHNuwM
No.106042
>>106039
fuckoff from here
0DX0jN
No.106043
>>106037
they were devout shaivites(depicted on their coins)
but they very also very tolerant towards other religions especially buddhism cause lord buddha knew the Kushans and also send his disciples to kushan kings to convey his message(there are letters available which are preserved to this say)
lord buddha has mentioned kushans in his letters to them(which are available online) as the descendants of kush (son of Shri ram).
iHNuwM
No.106054
0DX0jN
No.106055
>>106039
gujjars and khatris are mogging whole afghanistan you are talking about India. Kek

+sGmQ0
No.106063
>>105710(OP)
>haryana caste dynamics guide
I guess being jay is cool online ,after elviss bai and faggot dalal it has become cool to become desi and shit.
As per ur queschan,rajpoots (not regular just caste bhangis) have beef with jat coz they consider themselves superior but have no say in haryana and their counterparts (rangarhars) all have left for pakistan.
Yadav fight jats coz again they consider better an d have large pop in few districts.
Khatris are hated bcz they r rich and doing good but r not native.
Baman hate is universal all castes spacegoat brahmins coz of inferiority complex and they think how can this poor chap be above me in caste system
In my area we have tyagis and they seem to be chillest among all
elim0n
No.106064
>>106054
that is mostly due to dietary preferences and ideological differences, nothing more
Infact dietary preferences is the main reason
b/ivqT
No.106067
>>106063
So in short, who wins?
ZHgOzg
No.106068
Xwad32
No.106071
>>106055
Ye ms excel se banake laya hai kya 😭😭😂 sale chutiye
Xwad32
No.106072
>>106063
Kaha se hai tu ?

+sGmQ0
No.106073
>>106067
Jiske paas economic or political power
!d1cxXrYORTp/HKr

+sGmQ0
No.106075
>>106072
Panipat
elim0n
No.106077
>>106043
I can't find any evidence of them being devout shavites, they were religiously tolerant as seen by them accepting budhism as well, but their are high chances of them being Zoroastrians early on due to their iranian descent
0DX0jN
No.106079
>>106068
wdym by time height decreases
gujjars top every list when it comes to height in the subcontinent look up records of brits.
gujjars have lowest nasal index.(how long and narrow nose)
gujjars have 100% light skin allele even after being low steppe (highest zagros though)
gujjrs have highest lactose tolerance allele in the subcontinent
gujjars have highest west eurasian mtdna and least southasian mtdna (mtdna M)
I didn't want to day these things sorry
elim0n
No.106081
>>106026
the hymns are mythological, just to please the deities everything else is not mythological
0DX0jN
No.106082
>>106079
all sources can be provided if you want
0DX0jN
No.106084
>>106071
this research was done by Soviet Union pls read before saying something
Xwad32
No.106085
elim0n
No.106086
0DX0jN
No.106088
>>106077
have you researched ?? see their coins pllsssss.
I'll send you a well researched video your whole pov will change wait.the video has stated all the sources by respectable historians.
elim0n
No.106090
>>106088
they had hindu inscriptions too yes but that was not universal
other inscriptions were also there
Zoroastrian: Mithra, Ahura Mazda, Atar
Greek: Helios, Herakles, Selene
Indian: Shiva, Buddha, Skanda-Kumāra
Buddhist depictions: Kanishka I issued coins with "BODDO" (Buddha) in Greek letters.
elim0n
No.106091
>>106090
this can be attributed to their religous tolerance
Xwad32
No.106092
>>106084
>this research was done by Soviet Union pls read before saying something
Meme
Sale khud se excel sheet banake soviet union ki source bata raha
0DX0jN
No.106094
>>106090
their most early coins depict them as shaivites
buddha and other religion coins and inscriptions came later
this has also be proven by time period of coins.
elim0n
No.106095
0DX0jN
No.106098
0DX0jN
No.106103
>>106095
talking about the average
elim0n
No.106104
>>106094
Kujula Kadphises coins imitate Indo-Greek and Roman motifs, Herakles and Nike...
Vima Kadphises also used Iranian symbols such as the fire altar... from Zoroastrian influence.
Shaivism was present, but not exclusive or dominant in early coinage.
Coins with Buddha and Shaivite deities are both dated to the 2nd century CE.
better assumption would be that coins were a political tool appealing to different populations Bactrian, Indo scythian, Indian, Central Asian.
elim0n
No.106105
>>106103
Their are other variables as well... anyway sample size of gujjar in this list is quite low compared to some of the other communities, it could also mean selective bias
elim0n
No.106107
Xwad32
No.106109
>>106102
What are you trying to proof here lil bro gurjars ain't martial race accept kar
elim0n
No.106110
>>106109
height doesn't have anything to with being a martial race
0DX0jN
No.106111
>>106109
haha
0DX0jN
No.106112
0DX0jN
No.106114
>>106104
kujula kadphises is a greek name then why his son was named Kanishk
the reality is that kujula k was used by greeks for a indian king his real name was in Sanskrit/prakrit .
c8ty4o
No.106123
>>106102
>Saar we wuz white saaar we wuz aryan kangz
>Wat saar should I post proof???
>Look at this retarded excel sheet saar this just proves that we gujjars are not obc subhumans but ancient master race who kanged ovar this shithole subcontinent.
>No we wuz no decedent of shudra tier agricultural bhangis
>Our nignog hordes can drink milk saar this is an achievement for super pooper kanger caste.
Kys
elim0n
No.106126
>>106114
No you misunderstands both linguistic adaptation and historical context. Kujula Kadphise not a Greek name it is a transliteration of a Central Asian or Indo iranian name into the Greek script, which was used in Bactria for administrative and coinage purposes due to earlier Hellenistic influence. The Kushans, originally of Yuezhi (Tocharian or Indo iranian) origin adopted Greek script for prestige and communication and not because they were Greek. His son or successor being named Kanishka which is a..clearly Indo Iranian name, is fully consistent with their hybrid cultural identity....Moreover, coins and inscriptions often show the same name in multiple scripts Greek, Kharosthi, Brahmi, each adapting the pronunciation to its phonetic system.
elim0n
No.106129
Oh looks like we hit the bump limit
0DX0jN
No.106130
>>106123
hahah kek
0DX0jN
No.106135
>>106126
your are right
another thing indo greeks, huns , kushans all lived together in afghanistan .
0DX0jN
No.106140
>>106138
this was my first replying here otherwise I was just a lurker here.
0DX0jN
No.106151
>>106143
I read a lot mostly from books, twitter and some other online boards.